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Tricia D's avatar

Reading this, it occurs to me that some Jews might think that people groups that did not help Jews as they attempted to leave Germany and Eastern Europe before and during WW II would be analogous to the Amalekites not helping the Hebrews as they left Egypt. And so, in some way, those people groups should be destroyed, too. Someone like the former United States Secretary of Homeland Security Anthony Mayorkas, whose own mother tried to get into the USA but was rejected and wound up in Cuba, might feel that the native white population of the USA deserved to be exterminated, for example, and using mass immigration might seem like a particularly appropriate method (and even a form of sacrificial offering to his god).

I'm not saying many would think that in a conscious explicit way, but maybe many do unconsciously as well as some explicitly. Maybe religious teaching structures thought patterns in ways not even intended by many of the teachers.

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messianicdruid's avatar

Calling someone an Amalekite might demonstrate [ or cause ] a lability.

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EverettHubble's avatar

The only one associating sacrifice and anything to do with the Amalekites was Saul, and Samuel rebuked him for it. There is nothing in 1 Samuel or anywhere else in the Bible suggesting the eradication of the Amalekites was to be any sort of sacrifice.

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Afshin Nejat's avatar

And these are stories that were the foundation of the Jewish mind that invented Christianity for the goyim. Note that they carefully ensured these nightmarishly evil sentiments of their religion would be sustained as a cultural fundament of later Christian teachings and symbolism. It can't be an accident. They surely have exported this insanity into those who, since their conversion to this cult of Jewsus, now think themselves the "inheritors of the Covenant with Israel". It is they who, having chosen their gems of spiritual ideas from the Jewish dumpster that Paul refurbished for them, full of the rejected rubbish of a cult they deposed, even now slavishly and robotically portray Jews and Israel as something holy to be given our blood and treasure as a "biblical" obligation. It doesn't matter the logic of that argument, but only that its premise, the divinity of Yahweh and the chosen-ness of Jews, and all resulting notions, are explicitly accepted as true, and that the Bible as they received it through centuries of convenient confabulation and construction, imposed by systemic extortion, fraud, and manipulation, is the very word of said being. They are in their own minds the "younger brother" of the Jews (as some pope said), who nevertheless view them only as a bunch of misguided tools.

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Kevin Moore's avatar

Who were the Amalekites from the Hebrew Bible? What does archaeology say about them?

The Amalekites were a formidable tribe of nomads living in the area south of Canaan, between Mount Seir and the Egyptian border. The Amalekites are not listed in the table of nations in Genesis 10, as they did not originate until after Esau’s time. In Numbers 24:20 Balaam refers to the Amalekites as “first among the nations,” but he most likely meant only that the Amalekites were the first ones to attack the Israelites upon their exodus from Egypt or that the Amalekites were “first” in power at that time. Genesis 36 refers to the descendants of Amalek, the son of Eliphaz and grandson of Esau, as Amalekites (verses 12 and 16). So, the Amalekites were somehow related to, but distinct from, the Edomites.

Scripture records the long-lasting feud between the Amalekites and the Israelites and God’s direction to wipe the Amalekites off the face of the earth (Exodus 17:8–13; 1 Samuel 15:2; Deuteronomy 25:17).

Like many desert tribes, the Amalekites were nomadic. Numbers 13:29 places them as native to the Negev, the desert between Egypt and Canaan. The Babylonians called them the Sute, Egyptians the Sittiu, and the Amarna tablets refer to them as the Khabbati, or “plunderers.”

The Amalekites’ unrelenting brutality toward the Israelites began with an attack at Rephidim (Exodus 17:8–13). This is recounted in Deuteronomy 25:17–19 with this admonition: “Remember what the Amalekites did to you along the way when you came out of Egypt. When you were weary and worn out, they met you on your journey and attacked all who were lagging behind [typically women and children]: they had no fear of God. When the LORD your God gives you rest from all the enemies around you in the land he is giving you to possess as an inheritance, you shall blot out the name of Amalek from under heaven. Do not forget!”

The Amalekites later joined with the Canaanites and attacked the Israelites at Hormah (Numbers 14:45). In Judges they banded with the Moabites (Judges 3:13) and the Midianites (Judges 6:3) to wage war on the Israelites. They were responsible for the repeated destruction of the Israelites’ land and food supply……………………”

https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/1351-amalek-amalekites

Trump’s UN Envoy Elise Stefanik Says Israel has Biblical Rights to Judea and Samaria

By David Israel - 22 Tevet 5785 – January 22, 2025

h ttps://www.jewishpress.com/news/global/un/trump-appoints-ivy-league-head-chopper-elise-stefanik-his-un-envoy/2025/01/22/

h ttps://godskingdom.org/blog/2012/03/overcoming-the-spirit-of-amalek/

h ttps://tonymaritis.medium.com/who-were-the-amalekites-from-the-hebrew-bible-what-does-archaeology-say-about-them-9553961af68f

h ttp://www.balderexlibris.com/public/ebook/Weisman_Charles_A_-_Who_is_Esau-Edom.zip

h ttp://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2014/11-2014/the-looming-controversy/

h ttp://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/teachings/books/who-is-an-israelite/chapter-5-israel-in-romans-9-11/

The Jews are of Esau from Idumea, and therefore not of Israel or Judah; Jewish Encyclopedia, 1925, vol. 5, page 41

Apocrypha -- 2Esdras 6:9 …”For Esau is the end of this age, and Jacob is the beginning of the age that follows”

Revelation 3:9,"Behold, I give out of the synagogue of Satan those saying themselves to be Jews, and they are not, but they lie. Behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they shall know that I loved you."

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Tricia D's avatar

We have learned that people lie, a lot, and particularly they lie to cover their own misdeeds or to justify committing violence against their enemies. Thus we had the Israeli men claiming that Hamas beheaded babies on Oct 7th. It is called war atrocity propaganda. I had been exposed to the soap myth war atrocity propaganda, but it would never have occurred to me before I was exposed in real time to the beheaded babies claims being lies, that maybe there is some lying going on about the Amalekites.

Here is my current hypothesis: There were stragglers, the crippled and elderly who could not keep up with the Hebrew tribe on their journey. The "trail sweeps" decided it was best for the good of the whole tribe to leave these stragglers behind to die or possibly even kill them, then claim this had been the result of an Amalekite attack. The memory of the horrible (but fraudulent) Amalekite attack became folklore. But many who heard the story suspected the truth and some even heard the truth from the descendants of the trail sweeps. And the Amalekites denied it. So this became talk, talk which undermined the authority of the leadership of the tribe. Eventually leadership decided the best way to end this gossip was to just kill all the Amalekites and say God commanded it. They hoped that without the existence of the Amalekites, the memory would then be blotted out forever. Instead it seems to have been preserved for all time.

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